Season 4 Episode 20: Pretty People, Pills and Parties - Our 4:20 Marijuana in the Workplace

Are you ready to navigate the smoky haze of marijuana in the workplace? Join us in this riveting discussion led byKristina from Baked HR and Kate Bischoff, the co-host of the 'Hostile Work Environment' podcast. We tackle the current state of marijuana laws in the U.S, its implications for employers, and why it's crucial for HR professionals to stay updated on the trends. Plus, you'll get an earful about the political nature of SHRM, and why we believe it's time for a responsible rethink on the use of dues money.

Ever scratched your head over how to react when employees come to work under the influence? We've got some answers for you. From sending employees home to rethinking drug policies, we cover it all. We also delve into the potential of the Cannabis User Restoration Eligibility (CURE) Act and its implications for the workplace. Along with that, we share some eye-opening stats about the impact of recreational marijuana on workplace fatalities, absenteeism, and productivity. And as a fun twist, we even chat about the ripple effect of a Snoop Dogg concert on professional environments!

 Tune in, have a laugh, get some practical advice, and learn to tackle those 'what the fuck' HR moments one episode at a time. You're in for an enlightening, entertaining, and educational ride!

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:09

Had you actually read the email, you would know that the podcast you're about to listen to could contain explicit content and offensive langu-. No wait, that's explicit language and offensive content. These HR experts views are not representative of their past, present or future employers. So, like what's up, future boss, if you've ever heard my manager is like so unfair to me, I need you to reset my HR portal password. That'd be great. Or can I write up my employee for crying too much? Welcome to our little safe zone, friend. Welcome to Jated HR.

Speaker 2: 0:57

Whoa. Welcome to Jated HR, the podcast by three HR professionals who want to help you get through to work day by saying all the things you're thinking, but say them out loud. I'm Warren.

Speaker 3: 1:08

I'm Christina. I'm Kate.

Speaker 2: 1:12

So we have two guests today and, from our pre-recording conversation, we're going to have a hell of a lot of fun today. I can tell you that. So we have Christina from baked HR with us today and, oh, if you didn't notice our intro, andrew Culpa did a fabulous new intro just for this specific episode, because this is our season four episode. 20 episode for 20 episodes.

Speaker 2: 1:38

Heck, yeah, awesome so our topic today is marijuana in the workplace and what it means for everybody, and we're just already having a lot of fun. But we've had Christina on quite a few times, was part of our baked HR team, who visits us regularly, and then, for a first time visitor, we have Kate Bischoff. Kate is a co-host of the hostile work environment podcast and, I will say, has the cutest best laugh in all of podcasting. When she is laughing on her podcast I can't help but smile. It's great. And besides all that, she's an attorney and a legal consultant for in her own firm. So I'll let you introduce yourself a little bit more, kate, before we dive deeper.

Speaker 4: 2:25

Hi, my name is Kate. I suffer from law degree. I seek atonement. In all ways. I feel like this is AA or Eleanor, but I am a happy HR consultant.

Speaker 2: 2:40

So if you haven't already listened to the hostile work environment podcast, you have to put it on your download list we were just talking about. There's been a little while since the latest episode, but they were hoping that there'll be a new one coming out soon. So download it. Listen to all the episodes. You will definitely get a kick out of it. But B you will learn something from it, so it's a lot of fun. I just it's one of my favorites out there altogether.

Speaker 2: 3:05

Kate is I've seen multiple webinars with you hosting on the topic. I knew you're very passionate about the subject of marijuana in the workplace and when I thought, hey, our season four, episode 20 is coming up, let's do this, and I said, but I wasn't able to join us, but we're like, yeah, definitely we'll do this. But I was telling Christina offline when I'm on LinkedIn or somewhere and see you're doing a for credits or recertification class, regardless of the topic and regardless of no offense. Whatever solicitor is going to call me now for registering for because they're sponsoring it and I will do the webinar just to hear the topic is. I do enjoy it. I despise most key note speakers and professional speakers on the series who who are lame and boring and self-promoting, and you are the opposite on all of those.

Speaker 3: 3:56

But anyways, thank you, but let's not overlook the fact that he said he needs his recertification credits.

Speaker 2: 4:07

Yes, that is a requirement of my job. I must have my certification, well, didn't you? Aren't you getting spammed with emails yet that there are elections coming up? Why don't y'all run both of y'all, either of y'all run for their board Assurance Board. Have some poem with JCT.

Speaker 3: 4:20

Yeah, I don't get those emails, man, I've completely cut and Kate's blocked.

Speaker 4: 4:29

Oh no, they still send. They still send stuff to me all the time. They want to beat me to be a member. Really bad, and I'm like nobody policing this list, like no one checks it to see, like obviously. And sometimes right like that. There was recently one. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4: 4:43

I keep it on topic, right, but there was recently one where JCTJShermSCP, you know JD, was sitting there in the dark with like a green library light, like what keeps HR up at night, or what keeps business up at night, and I'm like, well, this image does. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 5:01

JCTJShermSCP got me. Jctjshermscp got that and she said it to me. It was awful. Who did that? Who said this is okay?

Speaker 4: 5:09

Right. It felt like a political ad, like I think LBJ has a famous one of who's going to answer the phone at 3 AM, but this is a nuclear war, Like who stays up for an HR. She was at 3 AM beside someone who is in HR or their employment attorney. I don't think. I think everybody else is thinking pretty good.

Speaker 2: 5:30

Well, that is my biggest problem with Sherm is they've become more of a political entity than anything else and I don't care one way or the other. If they want lean left or lean right, I don't care, but I don't think politics should really enter and then be a lobbying effort for anything with our due money, the dues money we send and all that I think there's. It's just they want to be a political Stop giving them money and stop it.

Speaker 3: 6:03

Employer also pays for that. That's the answer point. Also, I like on it as a side note. This does not have to make it into the podcast whatsoever, but I don't find that they have good resources for like DOD contractors or federal.

Speaker 2: 6:17

No.

Speaker 3: 6:17

So like why would that be?

Speaker 2: 6:19

The resources are.

Speaker 3: 6:21

I mean just some.

Speaker 2: 6:22

The resources are not what they used to be and, like I said, my boss wants it, so I will go ahead and do that happily, if that's all she wants from me she doesn't ask much of me. Then you can, then you can suffer through that, okay 3,000 emails a day, even though I've unsubscribed on Teen Times from them.

Speaker 3: 6:45

Oh my God, tell me about it.

Speaker 2: 6:48

So anyway, so let's get this thing started. So I tried, everywhere I could think of, to do some research. I wanted to find some awesome, salacious stories about people using marijuana in the workplace, and I couldn't find anything more than people. I got fired, as my boss said. I smelled like pot, or you know. Reddit disappointed me. I couldn't find what I was looking for on Reddit or it's you know redheaded stepchild, quora or any of the other feed. Even Buzzfeed disappointed me. I thought I'd get something out of Buzzfeed, but I just was striking out left, right, up and down. So do either of y'all have any funny, salacious marijuana in the workplace stories that you are able to tell?

Speaker 4: 7:32

I mean, I don't know if this counts, I'm going to tell you this story, and you guys do whatever you want with it, but it was a few years ago.

Speaker 3: 7:40

I want to say what is it? Oh my God, it was like 10 years ago, oh my God, 10 years ago. So there was this time in Decatur, alabama, decatur, where it's greater, and I think it's a great time. So there was this time in Decatur, alabama, decatur, where it's greater, where a lot of employees got sent home if they worked on Highway 20, because there was a suspicious thing taped to a train. They thought it was a bomb, cleared out all the plants that were near the railroad tracks. Everyone got sent home and the police got called in and it turned out to be just a big package of marijuana that was taped to the train. I guess they were trying to deliver it. Somebody was really supposed to get it and somebody saw it and called 911.

Speaker 3: 8:38

And we just asked chaos for the rest of the day, wow.

Speaker 4: 8:42

Oh my God, it's the devil's lettuce. It might explode. Oh, how about you, kate?

Speaker 2: 8:47

Anything fun I don't have.

Speaker 4: 8:51

I don't have anything fun.

Speaker 4: 8:54

I recently so you're not in Minnesota, you might not know this we recently legalized recreation of weed.

Speaker 4: 9:01

However, we don't have the infrastructure in place yet to have licensed retailers for weed-based or marijuana-based DHC, so there's only two places you can currently purchase it.

Speaker 4: 9:15

One is the Red Lake Reservation and one is on the White Earth Reservation, for both tribes have the ability to grow and regulate all their own, because it's a sovereign nation, right. So you either go to Red Lake or you go to White Earth, and I was up visiting Red Lake before they announced they were going to have a retail store and I was there talking about weed in the workplace and how Minnesota employers are going to generally approach it, how they can monitor it if they want to at all, which is generally not my recommendation anyway. But it was really fascinating because they had brought in one of the managers for the Grow House on White Earth, and the Grow House there exists for medicinal marijuana. They have one of the largest medicinal marijuana farms, for lack of a better term and he said that some of his employees will go out on break. Give a couple of toks, come back and be more productive post smoke a weed than they were in the morning, so I found that fascinating.

Speaker 2: 10:20

Well, one of the Reddit stories I did find was a farmhand. He said he smokes all day long. He says it's amazing how therapeutic manual labor work can be when you're stoned. It was the things I found on Reddit. I just remember seeing that. So that was just really cool and interesting. I just think the world has changed and this has been a pretty rapid change. And before we get too far, we were talking off the air. In your state of Minnesota it was whoops. We accidentally approved recreational marijuana and I just oh, recreational THC.

Speaker 4: 10:58

It has to be hemp-derived so it can't be marijuana-based, but we've had to. The past year we've had hemp-derived THC in various forms, including in substance.

Speaker 2: 11:08

So Okay, See, I live in North Carolina where we still it's not even, I don't even believe it it's been decriminalized, but it's not. You know, there are pot shops everywhere, but it's still illegal. I don't think they even recognize medical use here in North Carolina yet. But we'll see where that goes.

Speaker 3: 11:31

I don't know what we're doing in Alabama either. I told you, I moved my kid off to college last week and there's one coffee shop in the town that we moved her to, and it's also a cannabis shop. So so, everything's fine. Everything's fine, I don't know. It's coffee and cannabis.

Speaker 2: 11:51

It can wake you up, it can mellow you out, it's all the same.

Speaker 4: 11:55

You know you need both sometimes so.

Speaker 3: 11:59

She doesn't. She doesn't, in case you're listening.

Speaker 2: 12:08

Oh boy. So it's really weird. Everything's been evolving so rapidly First the medical licenses, and then the medical licenses that everybody else would get, and then recreational use and things like that, and it's really it's just evolved so amazingly quickly. Now we're on the threshold of it being potentially federally legal, which would open the doors for everything. We were talking the Since we booked the store, y'all is guests.

Speaker 2: 12:39

They put out the Cure Act, the cannabis user restoration eligibility, which I've been following as a federal contractor and dealing with people with clearances, because it doesn't necessarily prevent you from getting a clearance. It just makes it a longer, more arduous process and people who have to wait that long generally don't want to wait that long. It's going to take six, eight months for me to get clearance just because I fessed up to smoking marijuana or something like that, and I just It'll be interesting. I really, I personally would like to see this pass. I'd like to see it pass quickly because of all the things out there, I don't think marijuana is. It may even be less dangerous than alcohol in many, many regards. I don't. Stoners don't get in fights. When's the last time you saw two stoners beating the hell out of each other versus Two alcoholics, you know, going to town on each other.

Speaker 4: 13:34

Yeah, yeah, let me give you some like fascinating statistics for me. When there was recreational marijuana there, there's one study out there that shows that workplace fatalities between the ages of 19 and 35 decreased by 19.5% Because and they attributed some of that to those folks weren't on opioids, they were just getting high, and so when they're high there they're maybe a little just a little bit more safe than being, you know, high on Opioids. So that's one fun statistic. And then ADP did another really fun study when Canada went recreational and they found that 73% of employers didn't find increase in absenteeism, 78 didn't find any changes in productivity. You know, it's still in the 70s. No one's on a change in safety issues or anything like that. So all fun.

Speaker 3: 14:29

So to what Kate was saying earlier about her statistics. I read and I have no idea why I read this, but like a story About this guy in Ohio who, like he had some kind like a medical incident happened or something and it caused him to get a prescription for marijuana. And then he tried to get a job and was like I have this prescription for marijuana. And they were like no, it doesn't matter if you fail this drug test, you can't, like we can't offer you the position. But then that same employer was like it's kind of crazy, because we have people Working for us who are on far more dangerous drugs as long as they have a prescription for it, like opioids, like you were saying. And so it's just like also, has the laws changed? Like, are you looking at your handbook and your practices to be like, oh, we probably need to make some changes too.

Speaker 4: 15:25

Yeah, well, so, because it's no surprise, you know, recreational marijuana. Now the old Minnesota August one, I've been looking at drug policies all month, you know, on either side of that date and still looking at them. Frankly, because we can't test Pre-employment anymore at all, unlike there's two other jurisdictions, nevada and New York City, where you can't use the test or one of them says you can't test it all but they can. In one of those places you can't use the results of the test to withdraw conditional offer, but you can still test. Here in Minnesota you can't test for THC pre-employment unless they're in a safety sensitive firefighter or vulnerable adult kid in situations. There's limited exceptions, but it's you can't have seen one.

Speaker 3: 16:09

Why would you test in New York if you couldn't use the results to withdraw the offer? What do you care?

Speaker 4: 16:16

The bottom 10% of law schools students go to write the laws. So the rest of the 90 of us can pair more.

Speaker 3: 16:30

You're getting a letter in the mail for that one.

Speaker 4: 16:38

I'm joking, but seriously, sometimes the laws don't get written right. So I mean I should say the laws are not written well, it's, if I can be, you know, ironic here, but they miss things. And that, quite frankly, for a lot of people who do drug testing. They do drug testing to test and they don't care about the results. They think the fear of the test is going to be sufficient to keep their employees in line. No so, but there's others.

Speaker 3: 17:09

Every person I know who smokes weed like thinking all the way back to like 14-year-old Christina knows how to pass a drug test too. You know what I mean. Like they have an idea of how to get around your drug test in some form or fashion.

Speaker 4: 17:26

If they really want the gig, absolutely Right. One of the things that's happening is I'm dealing with a lot of clients and I'm like when is the last time you ever have had a positive drug test? And they're like, oh, once about five years ago, Like OK, so we can maybe down the ante Right Right. You know, maybe we calm down a little bit.

Speaker 2: 17:52

Well, here's a question, though you need to go on to it. I don't know if either of y'all know the answer to this, but it used to be that you cannot. A drug test just says it's in your system. They don't even know if they still can determine if you're actually intoxicated at that point. Now I did get an email that says some other company says they can determine whether someone's intoxicated or not, but I'm like you're the only one who can. I think this would be news all over the place with that.

Speaker 4: 18:22

Warren, I'm going to show you what they're doing. I realize that this is a podcast, not a visual medium, but they're blowing hot air up your ass if they say they're telling you whether someone's intoxicated right now?

Speaker 2: 18:34

I thought it was a bunch of crap and I'm like, yeah, you're the only one. I think I'd be getting a thousand of these if it was a real thing. But so that's another thing. Even if you have an accident at work, you know little Johnny tests positive. Oh yeah, I was at a party last night. Oh yeah, I was blazing up, I had a great old time. Yeah Right, you don't have any basis on your accident.

Speaker 3: 18:59

Really, when I worked in a restaurant, you know like before I had my first big girl job and all I did was work in restaurants. It was always a running joke, like if you got hurt at work you would deny workers' comp because you didn't want to take a drug test. Everyone in the kitchen, every single person in the kitchen, and most of the wait staff is smoking pot so that they can put up with the customer. And so they are declining work comp because they know that comes with a drug test.

Speaker 4: 19:33

Well, and I will say even the safety sense and even the post-accent. You just have to say I did it last night, because that's when I lawfully did it, and here in Minnesota we've got a lawful consumable statute. But it's also fair, like, if I can lawfully do it, why would you punish me for it? It's just an undergirding of this fairness part, but there are attitudes that need to change around. Marijuana is a drug and they, you know it's illicit, it is awful, it is bad and as people get used to legalization, I think it becomes a much smaller deal than what it's made out to be.

Speaker 2: 20:15

And these people have these problems with marijuana can redirect their energy to real problems like opioids, like you know, methamphetamines and everything else like that. That's really dangerous. I mean those opioids, I think, are probably the most dangerous things out there that are widely available in the drug community at least. I mean they've ruined people's lives from employment, marriages, convictions, everything along those lines. I say marijuana doesn't really do that to the same extent. I haven't seen it, I haven't done a ton of research but just empirically speaking I don't see the correlation. It can help these people with their opioid issues with all the money you're saving, not chasing little Johnny and his little baggy, little baggy.

Speaker 4: 21:06

Has a little baggy bag over there. Yeah Well, and Warren, you mentioned that you know it's going to be legalized federally. I think we're at least five years away from that happening federally and fighting to already taken some steps to see if marijuana should still be a schedule one or schedule two narcotic. So that will change. Hopefully not going to, but you know, even though Chuck Schumer, one of the super old guys, is what who introduced legalized marijuana in the Senate, I don't see these senators being or putting this high on their priority list anytime soon. But we'll see. I hope it does, because it would even make things easier for employers to understand and not have to deal with conflicting laws or what it feels like to have conflicting laws, the conflicting laws, and you hit on.

Speaker 2: 22:00

You know, not getting to R and D and all this other stuff, but all these freaking old bastards in Congress and the Senate. They have no clue about the 21st century, at all period in the story, and they're holding the world back from Progress. I don't like that. Don't care what letters behind their name, I don't want to get into that. But You're too old. If you're wearing to pins, you are not eligible for a political office. So, anyways, I. That's my.

Speaker 4: 22:35

When I'm not gonna more make any warnings. I get about per se liability under the ADA or the age discrimination employment act for what you just said, but I don't people could wear to pins astronauts, where depends Exactly.

Speaker 2: 22:52

But yeah, yeah, that that's our problem and that's one of the big problems, regardless of, like said, letters behind people's names. It's just not in touch with the 21st century. Someone, we're still stuck in the 18th and 19th century, but we'll figure the rest out. So, so, where, where is in? Where is? Where is this heading in the future?

Speaker 2: 23:16

We, there's still a few states that are holding out and there's legislation every year here in North Carolina Did it's good go take it from decriminalization to legal, but I think we're one of five or six states that it's just For boating across the board, and you were seeing states that really surprised me in terms of allowing it Virginia. There's some of the other southern states. I was really surprised to see them come around More quickly than than other states. It's just our, you know, I think, as do with their legislators, are more in touch with the 21st century than then ours are. So anyways, do you think you know federal would, if let me eat the problem that I have on the federal contractor side, but still, north Carolina could just say we're never going to Accept marijuana, and that's fine by them, even if it's legal nation one, so it's. Do we see a day where it's just gonna be across the board like alcohol? Is I?

Speaker 4: 24:19

Think it is going to be legal in such a way that we treat it like alcohol. Maybe it doesn't. We get sold in stores in North Carolina, maybe it doesn't get it. Maybe it's like fireworks, where in some states fireworks are unlawful, in other states they're lawful. You just go to their. You know, go to whatever state you want to buy what you want. I'm really looking forward to that here in Minnesota, because we have no Contiguous state neighbors to us that have legalized weed, and so I'm like give me that shmone on it. I want it, I want it all for my text dollars.

Speaker 3: 24:53

Oh, you know, if you're from, those are Yep come on over, I'm gonna make up, for he got a makeup for all those tax dollars You're sending down here to us.

Speaker 4: 25:01

Uh-huh, yep, yes, exactly, but you know we'll, we'll take all that money. I'm happy with it. But I think maybe it does become a very state specific issue and that the federal government becomes silent on it. But In the meantime we know from history that as soon as 15 states pass something, the likelihood it becomes federal is about like between 70 and 80 percent chance it's gonna become legal federally. We're past that Minnesota 23rd state to legalize recreational weed. So you're right, I think it's coming and he's five years away, but it's. It's gonna take a bit. So yeah.

Speaker 2: 25:40

So as we start wrapping things down a little bit, what is? What should employers be thinking about as they're? They're thinking about their current drug policies, drugs that work, and I know it will vary. If you're a freight carrier, yeah, you've got a whole, have some pretty strict and tight deadlines, but if you're just a general office setting or, you know, not dealing with anything more dangerous than a keyboard, then that's a whole different story. But what, what? What should employers be thinking about?

Speaker 4: 26:14

Well, if you just had keyboards as potential weapons in your office, then don't test for drugs.

Speaker 3: 26:19

I.

Speaker 4: 26:20

Just don't think that makes a lot of sense for you to be spending your money that way. There are other ways to spend your money. What I've been talking to most of my clients about is to re-categorize what is ready to work like. What does it mean to have someone come to work and be ready to Perform the functions of that day? Is it that they need to have steel toe boots on? Is it mean that they have to? You know, come clean and alert and Dressed modestly, or however you want to characterize it?

Speaker 4: 26:57

If that's what, if that's what it means to be ready to work, then use that as your. What mistas when someone comes in, slurring their words, bloodshot eyes, lack of coordination, you know, paranoia, whatever they're not ready to work. So how do we take care of them to get ready to work? Do we send them home and discipline them, or do we make this really tough decision? We should go spend between 35 and 50 bucks to get them drug tested, so that maybe we have to offer them rehab or maybe we have to let them go, just because we feel the need to spend the money and that there's different ways we can handle sending someone home.

Speaker 2: 27:39

I've seen some horror stories about Employer hey, you're drunk, we're seeing you home. Okay, I, you know you're. You're putting yourself in harm's way. Sending them home. Call them an Uber. People to you know same like a holiday party. If you, if you're using them, even if they're not drunk or intoxicated in any way, you're accusing them. Get them in a, get them in an Uber, get them in a taxi. Do something that don't put them behind the wheels. Now you know there, they're your problem Once you do so, anyways, that's well, but I, they just can't drive themselves home.

Speaker 2: 28:14

I don't get them.

Speaker 4: 28:15

Other than they can't drive themselves.

Speaker 2: 28:17

Yeah, get them home. So no, this, this has been a Tremendous amount of fun. I've been looking forward to this episode, for you know we planted out about a month ago. It's been. I wish wish feathers could be here, as I know he was looking forward to this episode as well. He had some interesting takes because he's working different industries and I have on on this as I really haven't worked in the industries when it's been. You know, since, like Christina said, in high school and college I worked in restaurants and my goodness, the stuff that went goes on. Restaurants are like the green ground for every Employment attorney's dream. If you're a plaintiff, spar attorney about what, what happens, and restaurants are that it goes to serve that. They're going to be a Nice starting ground for the marijuana and drug testing and everything else is they, uh, they. I'm that what I?

Speaker 4: 29:16

I'd say, warren, that pharmaceutical sales really, you know, put most employment attorney, you know salaries over the edge, pretty people, pills and parties like it's all great. That will definitely get some action for an employment attorney. But then you've got restaurants that do the very similar things a lot of the time. So you're right, that's another theater.

Speaker 3: 29:36

Did you? Did you say pretty people, pills and parties? Is that what I guess? Pretty pretty people, pills and pharmaceutical sales. I've some, I've some follow up questions later. Oh, that sounded way worse. That is not what I wanted it to sound like. I genuinely, I genuinely never mind Drop it, forget it. You know, I have some manufacturing clients and know of some manufacturing places that, even if it was temporary, like pulled back, okay, we're not going to test for weed anymore because we like employees people to show yes to work, yeah.

Speaker 3: 30:26

So some of that I mean, even in an area like ours where it's not that you know marijuana is legal, but like we can't afford to limit the labor pool over pot anymore.

Speaker 4: 30:38

What Well, I told you the story right Like so boring. If you ever have to drive between Fargo, north Dakota, and Bismarck, north Dakota, I'm sorry. Okay, this is like it's the worst, like you want to poke your eye out.

Speaker 2: 30:51

There's nothing to see North Dakota is like one of the few states I've never been to.

Speaker 4: 30:58

Oh, this far Western park is absolutely gorgeous. You get Teddy Roseville Nash Park to awesome, but that that Eastern hats this rocks Okay. But there was this sign that said we don't test for weed apply here, and I called the number because, you know, again, there's nothing else to do. I can't see anything else. So I called the number and the woman's like I said hey, you know, I see this billboard. I'm really interested. This is not a recreational state, might never be one, but it's not a recreational state. So why do you use this? You're like you know, we thought it's possible that we see an increase in applications and they stop.

Speaker 3: 31:35

A 20% increase in application, see this one's talking about the next stop arbitrarily limiting your labor poll no reason for it any longer.

Speaker 2: 31:49

Like I said, there's yeah, there's exceptions to every rule, but no reason overall for most people.

Speaker 3: 31:55

Snoop Dogg was in Huntsville. Big Snoop Dogg fan you guys should be too. I hope you are Okay. And I linked up with a bunch of my like favorite former coworkers to go to this, so people that I've worked in very professional environments with and like wasn't really sure how they were going to react. And then, like next thing, you know like every performer was throwing rolled blunts from the stage to everyone in the floor section. One of my former bosses was down there. A lot of these people that I went through leadership with were down there and I'm like who's taking it and smoking it down? I didn't have a floor seat. I'm too broke for that, but, like from a work perspective, it's just like. Hmm, who's?

Speaker 3: 32:43

going to be a little toasted tomorrow because they stayed up too late. You know, smoking weed all of your professional friends at a Snoop Dogg concert. Yet we're like, oh, we're going to drink drinks from marijuana.

Speaker 4: 33:00

No.

Speaker 2: 33:01

Well, that actually makes me think of something Too many you know, old fogies or whatever want to put I don't want to go this direction by am but a racial stereotype on on drug users, especially marijuana. And you know you don't realize people don't realize it's your. Even white middle income people, oh my God, that are there's, enjoying their herbations and other things just as much, if not even more than, than you know your stereotypical. You know whatever you want to, you know backwards thinking, stereotype things you want to think about marijuana and oh yeah, yeah, I thought I was even your sex.

Speaker 4: 33:40

Yeah, if I was to put a retail location in the Twin Cities area, I put it in a suburb that is called Edina, which stands for every day. I need attention, and so that's where I would put the retail store. I think I could sell with some pretty good graphic design. I'd be golden.

Speaker 3: 33:59

Yeah, yeah, I mean if you could see pictures from Huntsville.

Speaker 2: 34:02

Snoop Dogg concert.

Speaker 3: 34:04

I mean, that's all the proof that you really need and in my opinion. And then everybody went back to their you know job the next day building rockets and stuff, because of one way or the other, getting high.

Speaker 2: 34:22

Good job, warren. I'm good at dad jokes, y'all.

Speaker 3: 34:31

Kate is too.

Speaker 2: 34:33

Well, I want to start winding this down, so we'll start with you. Christine, where can everybody find you online? And I think this is your fourth or fifth time on J2HR, so where can we find you at online?

Speaker 3: 34:48

You can find me at hrecruit on Instagram and Twitter, or just baked HR on Instagram and TikTok, for you know mine and Jasmine's take on all this.

Speaker 2: 34:59

All right, and Kate, how about you? Where can we find you?

Speaker 4: 35:04

You can find me at K, the number eight B-I-S-C-H. That's where all of my handles.

Speaker 2: 35:09

You can find me everywhere on that one so yeah, all right, and once again, be sure to listen to the Hostel Work Environment podcast when they return very shortly. The top notch five stars. Give them a great review, just like you're going to give us a great review. We've just got a new review in I will cover on our next podcast. So we got another five star review. So love that stuff. And our best practice for today just just toke it up, people, that's all. So that's your best practice for today. Enjoy yourself, have fun. Life's too short. The intro was a special intro done for us by our fouries artist, andrew Culpa, who knocked it out of the park this time, and I don't know what intro and outro music might change that up, but our normal is underscore, orchestra, double the double. As always, I'm Warren.

Speaker 3: 35:58

I'm Christina. I'm Kate.

Speaker 2: 36:01

And we're here helping you survive HR one. What the fuck moment at a time.