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Oracle Layoffs, AI Spending & HR Reality: Why ‘Record Profits’ Still Mean Job Cuts

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Season 7 kicks off the only way Jaded HR knows how: with questionable life decisions, corporate chaos, and HR stories that make you wonder how some companies are still functioning.

Warren almost dies test-driving a 50-year-old truck (worth it), Cece is out here installing gas appliances like a DIY queen, and somewhere in the middle… we actually talk HR.

This episode dives into the latest mass layoffs at Oracle Corporation, including:

  • The brutally cold layoff email that feels like it was written by AI (because… it probably was)
  • Reports of 12,000+ jobs cut globally while the company remains profitable
  • The growing trend of companies cutting staff to fund AI investments and cost reallocation
  • Why “we’re profitable but still laying people off” never sits right

We break down the reality of mass layoffs in tech, including:

  • Why large-scale layoffs ignore individual performance (yes, even your top performers aren’t safe)
  • The psychological chaos of “tap on the shoulder” layoff days
  • Whether there’s actually a right way to lay people off (spoiler: there isn’t, but there are definitely wrong ways)

Then we pivot into another workplace classic:

LinkedIn… but make it a red flag 🚩

  • Should hiring managers really be comparing resumes to LinkedIn profiles like it’s a forensic investigation?
  • Why LinkedIn is basically “business casual Instagram”
  • And why not updating your profile for 5 years doesn’t mean you’re unemployable (shocking, we know)

We also get into:

  • The current hiring slowdown (hint: bonuses + economic anxiety)
  • Why employees are staying put instead of job hopping
  • And the increasingly sketchy trend of companies stretching 401(k) vesting schedules to keep your money (because of course they are)

If you’re in HR, leadership, or just trying to survive corporate America without losing your mind, this episode is your reminder that:
👉 Common sense is still optional in business decisions
👉 “People over profits” is usually just a slogan
👉 And sometimes… you almost die buying a truck and still consider it a win

🎧 Tune in for real talk on HR layoffs, workplace trends, LinkedIn hiring myths, AI job disruption, and why corporate logic rarely makes sense.

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Apr 9, 2026

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Warren: So, we're here. And guess what? It is the start of season seven of jaded hr. Woo-hoo.

CeeCee: number seven.

Warren: We've hinted a few times about changes coming to season seven, and one of them you just heard, we do intro and there's gonna be a couple other little changes. Hopefully in our next episode we will be up on YouTube

CeeCee: Yeah 

Warren: yeah, we're gonna have some,

CeeCee: we're going on YouTube.

Warren: Yeah,

CeeCee: we're making the leap.

Warren: watch out. Joe [00:01:00] Rogan.

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: Yeah, I will not. Do we go long? Sometimes we, I'm not doing a three hour episode.

CeeCee: No, I have, I get tired.

Warren: It's tiring. So, me tell you a little bit about my exciting personal life week I've had this week. So I have a problem. I'm addicted to old trucks, and I found one on Facebook Marketplace and I drove two hours away to go find it and check it out.

And this truck's almost 50 years old. It's got, you know, I expect there to be issues and I want there to be issues. That's what I like to do. I like to go. On 'em, fix 'em and play with them and things like that. So anyways I'm liking everything I see. And we go for a test drive and I tell the owner of the truck, I said, look. drive somewhere. The first half of the drive I won't just sit in the passenger seat. I'm want, listen, I hear all the noises and squeaks and bumps and little things that makes and everything. So he said, oh, yeah, that's a great idea. So he says, we'll [00:02:00] drive, there's a couple miles. There's a country store down the road and then we can switch places.

And you drive back? Yeah. Somebody driving and I'm not paying attention to the road or anything. I'm just sort of got my head down. Well, he's. Put on this aftermarket electric power steering kit onto this truck. It's, it's a 50 old truck. It doesn't, it didn't come with power steering back in the seventies. And we're driving and I, first time it happens, we shipped to the left. I didn't, I'm not paying attention. I'm wondering, hey, does he dodging a squirrel or something like that? Okay, so I'm not paying. Didn't give it too much. Second thought. Next thing I know, we're turning left into oncoming traffic

CeeCee: Oh.

Warren: And my wife's in the backseat of the truck. And it is like, he's like, oh shit. I'm like, what? What is going on? And so we did not make it to that country store. We made it to a little intersection where we could pull off and we figured out that it is this wonky electrical power steering thing that he put on there.

And he said, I drove it yesterday just to fill it up so we could go. And he says everything was fine yesterday, I [00:03:00] swear. But anyways, we. Would get back to his house and his wife's in the front yard and says, how'd it go? He goes, it couldn't have gone any fucking worse. And I said, oh, you haven't scared me away.

I think we've identified the problem and it's not something that I'm, I. I wanted to back down from if what we think is the problem is actually it. And so anyways, we're talking. He said, I'll take you to a shop Monday, and I will have them diagnose it. He took it, he tried to call around some shops nobody could get him in.

Thing is, he's in the military. He's moving on Friday, as in

CeeCee: Of course.

Warren: away. So he needed to move quickly. He said, look, there's no, no shops that'll take it. And so he cut the price a lot. I, I was expecting a couple hundred dollars. It was already a great price. Then he dropped it down a lot and so now I'm having delivered it's being, he's paying and also he's paying to have it towed two hours,

CeeCee: Oh shoot.

Warren: I live to give it to to get it to me.

So yeah, so I'm, I almost died, [00:04:00] but I got a new truck out

CeeCee: Hey, you got a good story and a truck.

Warren: yeah, and my wife is not. Horribly upset. She just wants me to shut up about getting this truck. I've been wanting it forever and ever and every time we see one on the road, I'm like, Ooh, ooh. 

CeeCee: Nice.

Warren: just like, just fucking get it and shut up.

CeeCee: Just get it.

Warren: And shut up.

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: up is the important part of that.

CeeCee: Yeah. My, my, my, my husband he loves to collect guitars. He's a magic, a, a magician, a musician. He's not a magician,

Warren: a musician, magician.

CeeCee: but but yeah, like, so he loves to collect guitars and, he does this like subliminal trick with me, where he'll like just be browsing, you know, window shopping, and then he'll show me a couple guitars and he'll be like, do you like this one better?

Or this one Just like, you know, generally the color of this. And then like about a week later, all of a sudden it just shows up at our door. I'm like, mm-hmm. Okay. Like I, he brought me into the [00:05:00] decision making. I felt part of the process. He won me over.

Warren: Yeah. It's crazy. But now I gotta, you gotta have a hobby. So now I have, Dawn asked me now that gives you two old trucks. You have. Now how many more do you need? I said the answer is. mathematical equation of the number of trucks I have at any given time, plus one is the number of trucks I need, and she did not like my smart ass answer.

CeeCee: I'm laughing right now 'cause I just got a text from my husband and he was just like, lies, why are you lying? It's not lies, it's not lies.

Warren: She's on Dear Kevin. All right, so what's going on in your world?

CeeCee: Oh my gosh. We are almost done redoing our kitchen. So they installed the backsplash today, which is super exciting. And then in a few weeks we're getting the cabinets refinished. So super, super exciting. And I [00:06:00] actually along, , with my husband and my dad, we assembled and installed a gas stove and I've never done that before, so I feel accomplished.

Warren: Okay. Good job. Oh yeah, my mother moved in the house and we got new floor soaked. They had to disconnect the gas stove and the contractor wouldn't reconnected himself for whatever reason. And I was like, I sure I can do this myself. But I ended up calling the gas company to come and just 'cause

CeeCee: Just be safe.

Warren: my mother's house up.

CeeCee: Yeah. 

Warren: I said, I'm sure I can do

CeeCee: Because best case scenario in that situation, she's gonna be moving in with you guys for a little bit,

Warren: yeah, no, that's worst case

CeeCee: oh, no. 

Warren: So I've got one and a half topics today. I was gonna start with the news of layoffs Oracle did about two weeks ago. We [00:07:00] were talking before we recorded and you've got into a little more deep dive than I did. But I found, brought me to this is I found a copy of the email that apparently. For what it's worth, I found it online. I don't know how accurate it is. The email employees were sent, so I'm gonna read this email.

CeeCee: Allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly.

Warren: allegedly, for all the value the internet gives us. We are sharing some difficult news regarding your position. After careful consideration of Oracle's current business needs, we've made a decision to eliminate your role as part of a broader organizational change. a result, today is your last day. We are grateful for your dedication, hard work, and the impact you've made during your time with us. After signing your termination paperwork, you will be eligible to receive a severance package subject to the terms and conditions of the severance plan. You will receive a email from DocuSign to your Oracle email address with details on your severance and termination date. Immediate action required to [00:08:00] receive important follow-up information, including FAQs and separation documents.

To help you through this transition, you must provide a personal email address. Please click here to submit a personal email address immediately. If you make a submission error, please resubmit a new form. Please note the personal email address will only be used for your correspondence regarding separation related information and severance agreements.

Access to your computer, email, voicemail and files will be deactivated soon and you'll be unable to log into your computer. As a reminder, you're prohibited from downloading, copying, or retaining, including emailing yourself any Oracle confidential information. Thank you for your contributions to our organization.

If you have any additional questions, please reach out to HR team via the Ask HR page, or it gives a phone number Signed Oracle Leadership. I, I hope, hope, hope. This wasn't the only thing employees got, [00:09:00] but I have this sneaking suspicion it is. And you know, little more than I do

CeeCee: Oh, I was of course I had to like snoop on my favorite Reddit site and someone did mention that they got Oracled which I thought was hilarious

Warren: Yeah.

CeeCee: and their experience seemed to be a little different, so they. Were working until the afternoon and they just got A random calendar invite from HR that just said transition plan.

And like, you know, 15 minutes later they were talking about being let go. And the person said that this was 80% of their team. Was gone and he was just being very empathetic to a lot of people on his team saying that a lot of people just bought houses or have a kid do soon and all this kind of stuff.

So the person said that, he felt empathetic for all of his coworkers who were as they said, in real time, panicking about their future. A lot of the jobs were in India. I think [00:10:00] they said about 12,000 jobs were in India and then there was like 700 in California and then like 400 across the us.

So yeah, that's crazy.

Warren: Yeah. It give it the take it away in the job realm. I mean, even the nineties working in the technology field things like that. It was just always something.

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: Hopefully those folks will land on their feet pretty soon, regardless of where they are.

India, California.

CeeCee: Exactly.

Warren: Wherever, but that's crazy

CeeCee: Oh, and the other thing that I thought was interesting was that, again, this is just what I'm reading off the internet, but while Oracle remains profitable the layoffs are part of an aggressive capital reallocation and they're reallocating money toward, oh, I hate to say it, AI infrastructure.

Yeah. And then just cost savings. So if by making these cuts, they're saving about eight to $10 billion to free up for other things.

Warren: [00:11:00] That's not Trump change. And. Now I've, I've been involved in layoffs and as part of the decision making team and things like that. But when you're laying out tens of thousands of people to, or 12,000, I guess I should say, for, in this case, just, you know, I, you can't look at individual situations.

You know, when I've been, you know, oh, we've got lose a dozen people in the next two months, and you can look at them individually, but when it comes to Sweeping layoffs. only imagine. Okay. It's this department, it's, you know, you can be the superstar of that department and yours gone as the, the lacquer, the

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: department. I, I can't ima you, you don't have enough manpower to downsize. Think logically and through. And who's your best performers and who's this going when? I mentioned I worked [00:12:00] at a hospital that ended up closing and I got hired a month before they lost the hospital loses its medical license and after that, only thing I was doing was layoffs, layoffs, layoffs. And there was just one guy that I barely knew. I just knew his background story. took public transportation. Approximately 30 miles to get to work every day. And he was there every day on time, et cetera. And that's basically all I knew of him. I, I couldn't tell you how great of a performer was, but I would always say, look, he, he puts in more effort to get here and do what he's gotta do than anybody else in the company.

I was like, we've gotta reward that somehow I think we got laid off at the same time because

CeeCee: God.

Warren: the, meeting that got laid me off that I wasn't invited. That's how I found out I

CeeCee: Mm

Warren: off. I wasn't invited to the layoff meeting. I just said to the director, I said, it's my turn. And she started getting upset. Yes, it's your turn. I'm like, okay. The [00:13:00] writing wasn't on the wall or

CeeCee: Oh, I know. Seriously.

Warren: I, you know, I've been, anticipating this day, but I think he got the acts the same day I did.

CeeCee: I, so to me, I'm like, that makes complete sense. When a company is doing poorly and they lost a license and they're losing, you know, patients in beds and now like, you know, things are going under and you have to make layoffs because of that. Understandable, reasonable, rational.

There's just something that never sits right with me when they talk about companies who had exceptional years and reported outstanding profits and record revenues. And they do a mass layoff, and I'm just like, I mean, I, I don't know, it just never sits right with me. There's, there's a lot that I could go down a rabbit hole with, but I choose not to tonight.

Warren: have done something like Accenture and invest that money in retraining

CeeCee: [00:14:00] Yeah.

Warren: staff and then. Only laying off the, the people who weren't ever gonna get caught

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: the modern technology. I still think about that story all the time. I was like, that's the way you do it when you're trying to upgrade to AI and things like that.

You upgrade your existing staff and then, move the people out who can't keep up with the technology.

CeeCee: But even then there's like warning. It just never sits, right? Because , I get it. Like, let's make revenue, let's make profit, profit every year, keep doing better, but at the end of the day. Like, these are real people who are really affected. So you have to like, there's two sides to it I see both sides and I tend to, be a little more empathetic to the people side.

Warren: Oh yeah. Oh, absolutely.

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: I once. We were doing layoffs once, and I just done a mortgage verification for somebody whose name was on the list. And I was like, oh gosh, it sucks.

CeeCee: Does.

Warren: but you know, it's part of life unfortunately,

CeeCee: [00:15:00] Yeah.

Warren: Grandparents and things who they would work 40 years in the same company and never, I'm sure there were layoffs, but it wasn't as prevalent as it is now. Especially, in the technology world, the newest technology comes out and if you're on the phasing out technology,

CeeCee: yeah.

Warren: if you didn't keep up, you are. you're a whip maker or whatever that saying is, and you've gotta just keep up. And it applies in HR too. 

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: up in hr. The laws are changing. Rapid fire. The state I work in has got a lot of new laws coming down the pipeline. It's gonna be really interesting seeing how the public and the employers react.

It's gonna be a lot of fun changes at that.

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: Anyhow, but yeah, bad, bad layoffs. And then there's people and companies whose consultants, whose job is to specialize in laying offs or like the bobs, if you will, on, on

CeeCee: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Warren: but [00:16:00] not, and, but that there are companies that, that's what they,

CeeCee: So they do.

Warren: in and they, they

CeeCee: come in.

Warren: Yeah.

CeeCee: You know, I, I don't even know what's the right way to do a mass layoff like that. I lived and I survived through one where they just called teams into rooms and basically said if you're getting tapped on the shoulder before 12 you are receiving a severance package and if you get tapped on the shoulder after one, your role is changing.

And that morning was. An intense morning, like just

Warren: getting done.

CeeCee: none.

Warren: eight.

CeeCee: Mm-hmm.

Warren: Do it at eight and eight 15. 

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: A, here's team B, and let's move on our way. Because yeah, I can only imagine the anxiety all day

CeeCee: Yeah. Like you're just waiting and you know, I don't know. I don't know if there's a right way or a wrong, like well, there's definitely wrong ways but, you know, I don't know if there's an optimal way 'cause, it all sucks at the end.

Warren: [00:17:00] Yeah, well, at least they weren't throwing the birds around, like, oh, we're all family. And you know, some of those other crazy emails we see,

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: That, know, they're trying to be overly empathetic and it backfires on them. This is pretty cold and direct email. It almost looks AI written.

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: Oh, yeah. 

CeeCee: Well, I assume that there's gonna be a lot of recruiters in the tech space who are going to be busy with LinkedIn this week. That's all I can say.

Warren: Yeah. Good luck. Find it. And the thing is, they're still saying things that there's like jobs for every one applicant

CeeCee: Mm-hmm.

Warren: there's, we, there's a shortage of applicants for jobs. And I'll tell you what, I'm seeing it in my industry, I have, you know, a little bit over a dozen jobs available right now. If I could find the right 12 people immediately, bam, it'd be done. and it, it just finding the right people is, is tough. And the number of applicants [00:18:00] applying to jobs just seems to be going down as well. You know, we used to get one position, get 50, a hundred applications. Now we're getting 20 ish, 30 maybe.

CeeCee: I'm gonna be honest, so I'm just gonna throw it out there. I think it might be two things. So usually bonuses pay out in like may. Like April May-ish. So I feel like this is a slow time of the season because people are sticking out for their bonus. But then also I feel like just with, everything going on in like

Warren: Yes.

CeeCee: I think people are very, they, they wanna stay because when things tend to get rocky, people tend to like stay put.

Warren: out.

CeeCee: So I think those are like the two things right now. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a trend, like no one's applying.

Warren: Yeah. And as the economy tightens up yeah. People are less likely to make a move when, things tighten up.

CeeCee: Yeah.

[00:19:00] [00:20:00] 

 

Warren: Well, our next topic I had a discussion with the manager and I like this manager. I've spoken several times about man hiring managers that I don't necessarily always get along with. I like this manager, one thing this manager is obsessed with is checking people's LinkedIn profiles and,

CeeCee: My God.

Warren: and if their LinkedIn profile doesn't exactly match. Their resume in front of 'em. They're asking questions and is this a red flag?, We gotta ask the questions. We've gotta find out more because I have updated my LinkedIn profile. I took a lot of shit off my LinkedIn profile and when

CeeCee: Do not [00:21:00] solicit.

Warren: That's still on

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: But as soon as I'm finished with my classes, because some of my assignments are through LinkedIn learning. I am ditching LinkedIn.

CeeCee: Are you.

Warren: I'm off. I'm done. But anyways a lot of people don't. My wife, I spoken to her about this last time I had a similar discussion with this manager. My wife hasn't updated her LinkedIn profile, and she has no idea how long it might be.

Years and years and years. And since she's done it, so people, you know, LinkedIn is a powerful job. Site, but you know, may not exactly match their LinkedIn profile

CeeCee: yeah.

Warren: you know, it's not a red flag, but it's worth a question in the interview. Hey, you know, LinkedIn, it says that you worked here, but your resume says this. And, if you have a very common name, are you sure you have the right person that you're talking about? I,

CeeCee: Yeah. Also it's social media. It's not real life like even though it's LinkedIn and it's supposed to be professional, half the stuff people post on there is like garbage or [00:22:00] lies. So

Warren: Yes.

CeeCee: It's the Instagram. It's Instagram, it's business casual Instagram basically. So it's like people can choose not to engage in LinkedIn and it's not a red flag,

Warren: Yeah.

CeeCee: completely okay if you haven't updated it in a million years.

Warren: Yeah. And you know the only reason. My, I got LinkedIn in the first place is, the the HRS we were using at the time they used your LinkedIn, so I forget, I, it's been so long, but they used your LinkedIn to for I guess your single sign. I don't even remember what it was, but you had to have a LinkedIn to be into the HRIS. And

CeeCee: That's weird.

Warren: it was weird. I'll have to ask somebody how and why that worked, because I don't remember, but that's the only reason I got it. And the person I'm like, yeah, I don't care. But now it's just such a garbage dump. It's worse than Facebook almost. It's, oh,

CeeCee: it's really funny 'cause I remember when LinkedIn first [00:23:00] came out, it was like a networking tool and then they introduced the job posting piece and it was like. Networking with, you know, you can maybe find a job on there too. And now it's switched completely because I think you just said before you call, you basically called it a job board, which honestly I think LinkedIn has now turned into a job board with a social media component.

It's, it flipped. I.

Warren: Yeah, I'll be honest, I found a job on LinkedIn. This was before I was like very anti LinkedIn. I was just cruising around, checking out on LinkedIn on the little side column it says, you might be interested in this job. And I read, I was like, Hmm, that's interesting. So I clicked and next thing you know. They, I've applied and I'm getting an interview. I'm getting hired. I wasn't actively looking at that immediate moment, but I was like, a job you might like, I'm like, that does look [00:24:00] cool.

CeeCee: Isn't it funny though, like I don't know in the, in the grand scheme of things, how you just happened to. Look at a random job posting and end up somewhere that you've now spent the last X amount of years of your life at all because you happen to see that link.

Warren: Oh yeah, absolutely. Like I said, I didn't stay at that. That job was not all that. It is whoever wrote that job description in that ad. I did a hell of a good job. Hell of good job, whoever you are. Thumbs up. Great job. It said, it intrigued me. I wasn't looking. I clicked on it. Hey, maybe I will. I'll just throw mine out there.

See, throw my resume out there. See what happens and something happens. But I actually just celebrated my seven year anniversary where I am working, and that is the longest I've stayed at any employer my entire career. And like I said, I don't intend to go anywhere retirement.

I hope to get to retire from there, but it's just so [00:25:00] weird to think seven years. And then my wife, 16 to like 21 worked at Dairy Queen and then 21 through however long worked at targe. And then for the last 18 years has been at her current job. So she's had three jobs her entire life.

CeeCee: That's awesome.

Warren: there's been individual years I've had three

CeeCee: that's so funny. I can't.

Warren: it's crazy.

CeeCee: It's not that I'm opposed to it, I just, I honestly can't imagine being with one company for like 10 years. Like that to me is just unimaginable. I don't know.

Warren: It's strange and I'm, thinking about reasons I've left jobs number one, as. Stereotypical it is bosses you get a disconnect with the boss or a new boss or something like that. That's probably the number one I've been fired for. Cause once, and I've been laid off twice and yeah, it's weird.

It's [00:26:00] just, weird. But I'm happy I don't wanna move around. But speaking of how long people stay in jobs. I saw something, I don't know how long ago it was. It wasn't that long ago, but companies are moving their, going back to the first topic and saving money. They're moving the 401k vesting schedule to like these 10 and 12 year vesting schedules. all the data in the world right now is showing people are staying at their jobs three to four years on average.

CeeCee: Yes.

Warren: what's the company doing it? they can pocket that, you know, they can get that money back from the, oh yeah, we matched 10% on your 401k, but you're not gonna

CeeCee: Can I,

Warren: enough to see it.

CeeCee: okay. Like not to get on a soap box, but it's a little soap box. I'm getting on a bar of soap. I. I feel like there has to be some accountability to these giant organizations who are doing shit like this because the repercussions of doing stupid crap and putting profit over people ends up being [00:27:00] detrimental down the line for these people.

It's like they're causing chain reactions in people's lives that like, we don't like that theoretically, that's like years and years of a 401k that someone has now missed out on. Right. Or even with the Oracle example, just being like, oh, record profits this and this. But instead of like hiring people, we're gonna put all these people out of work.

And impact their lives. Like I get it. And I'm not like, listen, I'm a reasonable, rational person, but at some point, zeros are just a zero. You gotta think of the, I don't know, 

Warren: do a hiring freeze. Let natural attrition happen. Do some buyouts of people that, hey you know, you wanna retire early, you know,

CeeCee: No, or just let people retire at all, like.

Warren: Yeah.

CeeCee: just think when I hear of stuff like the 401k vesting, like expanding it out, I wanna laugh because the whole [00:28:00] reason why we have 4 0 1 ks is to begin with because 4 0 1 Ks used to be supplementary to pensions, and then companies realized that they could. Save more money if they just did away with pensions and just invested into 4 0 1 Ks.

And that's actually not as beneficial to people as an actual pension as they used to be. And now it's just like, oh, and now you're gonna have to wait around for 10 years before you can get that money. And I'm like, are you effing kidding me?

Warren: I agreed. But it's also like in the government world, you have to stay so many years I have a very good friend, was in a state job for 19 years, but just could not take it at all any longer to make it that 20th year. He told me explicitly what's going on in making him want to leave his job. And I was like, dude,

CeeCee: Get out.

Warren: I want that pension. I'll,

CeeCee: Yeah.

Warren: I want that pinch of can you suck it up? He had very strong feelings [00:29:00] and he had been wronged and I have no reason not to believe anything that he has said. And he is elsewhere working and he is happier. 

He was a people manager. Now he's not. And he is so much happier not being a people manager. He's an individual contributor and loving it. And yeah. So yeah, he's doing well. But I was like, dude, I would've had anything to keep that state pension,

CeeCee: Yeah, I mean that's just a matter of like a handful of months at that point. Yeah, I took a little L away. Like whatever you gotta do, I'm sure you have some accrued PTO that you can just take off.

Warren: Yeah. And it's a state job. They don't fire you for anything, so I just suck. I would've sucked it up. I think I could deter a lot of things for, a few

CeeCee: Yeah,

Warren: year

CeeCee: just one ear.

Warren: that pension. I might be a miserable SOB, but on 20 years in one day, anyhow. Did you have anything interesting that you wanted to cover today?

CeeCee: [00:30:00] No, I came into tonight's recording as a pure passenger princess, so I just arrived to give commentary.

Warren: Oh, it worked.

CeeCee: Nailed it.

Warren: Like I said, I had one and a half topics. So, join us again next week or, or two weeks I should say. We're not doing weeklys again. Two weeks. Hopefully we'll be on YouTube and get our stuff together for that. And yeah, have a good old time. So as always, I'm Warren

CeeCee: I'm Cece.

Warren: and we're here helping you survive.

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